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Great interview! The more this fraud is talked about, the more absurd it becomes. Hopefully, this will shut the entire agenda down.

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Jun 5Liked by Carol

What a FABULOUS conversation, thank you so much! So much invaluable history and perspective from both of you...it will take a while to sink in but I'm so grateful to begin to understand what was happening in last century while we were all creating a space for ourselves to live as out lesbians. I've had the same feeling, Carol, that Jennifer Bilek is definitely onto something but it's not the whole story, and this really helped to start to flesh it all out. Now I'll go dig into UB's essays too!

Glad you're on substack now, Carol -- this 70-something nomad doesn't think to look on youtube much, but I look forward to seeing you here!

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Great interview, thank you.

Amazing how far back this madness goes.

I agree that the gender industry really needs eradicating altogether.

Dusty

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Great interview.

Very disturbing, especially about Transgenderism shifting to poor girls in America and those in the care system.

I'm a Gender Realist clinical psychologist in the UK. I'm implacably opposed to gender ideology and Transgenderism.

I would love to be a guest on your show. I'm @Psychgirl211 on X

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This could be a transformative interview for young lesbians and a springboard for research and it it exposes the deep cracks in the trutrans narrative.

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Jun 5Liked by Carol

I relate to what UB is talking to about the 40 mark. I felt weird as a kid, but was never called a tomboy and in fact my mom rejected the idea that I was a tomboy because I wasn't into sports. But I liked boy's toys and clothes, liked playing male characters in grade school plays, and had mostly male friends until middle school. But also I was shy and introverted and lived in my imagination. How can I distinguish my "pre-lesbian"-ness with my weirdness?

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Jun 11Liked by Carol

I'm on my third listen to this amazing conversation -- thank you so much, Carol and UB! A very disconcerting treasure trove of information, but more to arm ourselves with in the struggle against this lunacy. The history part, kind of shows that the conservative/right wing side of American political culture may be much more invested in keeping the trans train going forward than it seems like at first glance... the homophobic nature of "transing" people, a little like that conservative father in Missouri who was glad his son was really a "daughter." Not to mention parallels with modern day Iran. IMO the patriarchy is still behind it all, but that may be another discussion... 🙃Keep the conversations coming!

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